Showing posts with label Holocaust Denial. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Holocaust Denial. Show all posts

Thursday, February 26, 2009

Chris Huhne, Start Underlining

Some arguments don't need to be refuted, merely underlined. Chris Huhne's ass hattery is such an example. Except you have to read two of his articles to find some good places to break out the highlighter. Thanks to the untiring critic of the obsequious British left, Styrer, for bringing these to my attention.:

One

Two

Some excerpts. Maestro, some highlighting music please.

Where does one start. Let's just begin with the fact that he selectively applies "freedom of speech" with regards to Wilders and Toben. The question must be asked, does Huhne quake and wet himself at the thought of marauding Muslim mobs (all the while blaming his own culture for their hate) or does he secretly have some affinity for Holocaust deniers? Or perhaps both.

Huhne said this of Wilders' movie:

In a civilised society, however, there has to be a dividing line between freedom
of speech and an incitement to hatred and violence. I carefully watched Geert
Wilders' film Fitna,
and in my opinion it crosses this line, and his own presentation would be just
as likely to cross this line if he entered the country. Fitna's shocking images
of violence and its emotional appeals to anti-Islamic feeling risk causing
serious harm to others

So Huhne is proposing that we censor images of violence perpetrated by Muslims so as not to offend Muslims? Or to keep them safe? Since when does obscuring the truth bring about a better world? I am curious, since Huhne watched the movie "carefully", where the emotional appeals are exactly? In fact Wilders makes little or no appeal. He merely quotes verses found in the Qur'an and places those next to acts of violence perpetrated by people who consider the Qur'an the inerrant word of God, and who cite these very verses as justification for their acts. Huhne is a bungling incompetent, perhaps going forward he could spare us his ill informed and idiotic anaylses.

There is no attempt to draw a distinction between radical Islamists and
moderate followers of the faith. The film is effectively a 16-minute incitement
to violence. No minority in this country – whether Asian, black or Yorkshiremen
– should be put in such a position.

There is no attempt to draw a distinction? What distinction is there to be made? The canonical texts of Islam are clear. The only distinction not made is that between combatants and non-combatants by the very suicide terrorists who perpetrated the acts highlighted in Fitna. Where are the Muslims who are condemning these tactics, and all jihad against infidels? The greatest scholars in Islam are reaffirming these passages, and jihad as a timeless struggle to kill or convert the Kuffar (infidels). There should be no distinction until Muslims make one for themselves and eschew violence, in all cases, against non-Muslims, gays, women, and any of their other attendant victims through the ages. The film is no incitement to violence, the verses it quotes ARE incitements to violence. The Qur'an IS an incitement to violence. The life of Muhammad is an example of and incitement to violence. Huhne is descended so deeply into self loathing that he feels a man who is stating that a hateful religion is in fact hateful needs to be censored for offending people of this religion.

In my view, there is a serious risk that Wilder's views could create substantial
harm to ethnic minorities in this country, and it is this prevention of harm
that justifies the restrictions to Wilder's freedom of speech. That is why (and
I say this rarely) the home secretary is right on this occasion.
Where exactly in the UK are minorities being persecuted or attacked? From all the reports I read, it is people from Muslim backgrounds that are committing the acts of violence. They are referred to as "Asian" in the media, to better obscure the ideological background, which encourages violence against non-Muslims. The violence includes gang rape, and assorted other violence. The Muslim response? A Muslim news editor demands that the Asian/Muslim community be given the resources to tackle the problem "within the religion and culture of these communities themselves". As if their "culture" has done a good job of stopping violence. Let them police themselves so they can more effectivel use gang rape as a tool redress harmed "honor".

Huhne on Holocaust deniers (Gerald Frederick Toben)? Well, now he is much softer:


We don't in this country tend to prosecute people for issues that we regard as
issues of freedom of speech
Oh really Chris? Even when that free speech posits that a minority of Brits (Jews) have conspired to defraud the world of money, based on an enormous hoax, concocted by a secret cabal of hook nosed Jews, with the complicity of all Jews, and blackmailing every government to comply? That doesn't count as inciting hatred? This is precisely what Toben said. Here are his comments in defense of Ernst Zundel (virulent anti-Semite and Holocaust denier). Some highlights:

The world has known that the Holocaust Racketeers, the corpse peddlers and the
Shoah Business Merchants are not only ‘off their rocker’, but since Norman
Finkelstein published his book The Holocaust Industry, we know that these
people, according to Finkelstein, are also a bunch of criminals who have no
respect for the victims — Jews and Gentiles alike — as long as they can make a
‘fast buck’ out of it


And in the Iranian media he said that Israel was founded on the Holocaust lie.

Wilders never called for violence and didn't attempt to incite violence, and has repeatedly repudiated violence as a solution. I say Toben has the right to deny the Holocaust. As Wilders has the right to criticize Islam. So the issue is, why, in his selective application of the right to free speech, does Huhne choose to stand with Holocaust denying fascists, instead of anti-fascist liberal democrats? Huhne is a miserable twat. Perhaps he can spare us sanctimonious self loathing diatribes in the future.

Update on Holocaust Denial

I was wrong in my article below. Bishop Williamson was allowed entry because he is a British citizen. I overlooked this critical fact. However I will shift the analogy as the Brits allowed Australian citizen and Holocaust denier Frederick Toben into the UK, he was detained while the magistrate decided not to honor the German warrant for his arrest for "anti-Semitism" and "Holocaust Denial".

The point being the Brits don't mind Holocaust denial so much. Jews seem to take it lying down, and won't riot at Picadilly Circus.

Wednesday, February 25, 2009

Britain Testing the Lows of Capitulation once Again

The UK has done it again! Things are always darkest... just before they go pitch black.

Only days after banning Geert Wilders from entering the UK, the Brits have allowed the Holocaust denying bishop, Richard Williamson into Britain. Williamson was just de-excommunicated by the Pope (himself a former member of the Hitler Youth). Here is why this whole thing stinks: Geert Wilders made a film that quotes ACTUAL texts cited by ACTUAL Muslims in the commission of ACTUAL violent acts. Now Williamson has forwarded a theory that states that demonstrable history is in fact a fake, that this hoax was perpetrated by a group of people (the Jews), who have conspired to enlist the help of every Jew and every government to extort money from non-Jews... and this just HAPPENS to be a clone of ancient anti-Semitic stereotypes (blood libel, Jews run the world, etc...). I commented on why Holocaust denial is anti-Semitism here. So Britain has denied the entry of an elected politician from a UN member state who did nothing but cite demonstrable fact in a short film, and allowed entry of a man peddling an anti-Semitic lie, denying demonstrable history, who had even been excommunicated by one of the greatest anti-Semitic organizations on the planet for being anti-Semitic.

Who does Williamson meet with upon arrival? None other than Holocaust denier and discredited non-scholar, David Irving. You can read all about that meeting here.

What kind of country listens to threats from a peer who has been convicted of reckless driving and killing a man (notice his close personal connections to the genocidal government in Sudan). {He has also been quite boastful in the Muslim world (media) about his ability to intimidate the British government} And what kind of country, after claiming free speech can be censored because people would be "offended" then allows a Holocaust denying, neo-fascist, religious cleric into the country?

I fully support Williamson's right to deny the Holocaust. It is offensive, stupid, and immoral, but all of those things are his right to embody. But how hypocritical could one government be, to in the course of a week deny a certain right to one man, and extend it to another? Does Britain even care anymore? Has the self hatred of the liberal government become so great that they cannot even muster the pretension of decency?

Just remember if you are planning a vacation to London, criticizing fascism will get you banned, and promoting fascism gets you admitted. It's hard to believe Orwell was an Englishman.
The British Left and I finally agree, we both wish they had never been born.
***EDIT*** I am updating this story in a new post.