Wednesday, March 18, 2009

Islamist Hatred of Jews... it Is Not Even About Israel

Following on my earlier post:

Where the 9/11 defendants detail that they hate and fight America because it is their Islamic duty to fight the infidels, I would like to present the views expressed below by Egyptian cleric Muhammad Hussein Ya'qoub:

If the Jews left Palestine to us, would we start loving them? Of course not. We will never love them. Absolutely not. The Jews are infidels – not because I say so, and not because they are killing Muslims, but because Allah said: 'The Jews say that Uzair is the son of Allah, and the Christians say that Christ is the son of Allah. These are the words from their mouths. They imitate the sayings of the disbelievers before. May Allah fight them. How deluded they are.’ It is Allah who said that they are infidels.
Your belief regarding the Jews should be, first, that they are infidels, and second, that they are enemies. They are enemies not because they occupied Palestine. They would have been enemies even if they did not occupy a thing. Allah said: 'You shall find the strongest men in enmity to the disbelievers [sic] to be the Jews and the polytheists.' Third, you must believe that the Jews will never stop fighting and killing us. They [fight] not for the sake of land and security, as they claim, but for the sake of their religion: 'And they will not cease fighting you until they turn you back you’re your religion, if they can.'
This is it. We must believe that our fighting with the Jews is eternal, and it will not end until the final battle – and this is the fourth point. You must believe that we will fight, defeat, and annihilate them, until not a single Jew remains on the face of the Earth.

That's right, even if Israel went away, they would still have to try to exterminate the Jews. So how are those peace negotiations coming along?


Anonymous said...

How does this relate to the concept of "hudna" or truce?
Hamas offerd this to Israel if it withdrew from all lands it seized in the 1967 Middle East War.

Ibn al-Rawandi said...


Hudna means a "truce". Shariah has a lot to say on the topic of truce. The truce is not valid in Islam, it is only valid on an impermanent basis. Meaning the hudna is used to create a lull in the fighting (which the Muslims are losing) long enough for the Muslims to rearm, reorganize, and defeat the enemy. The truce is valid only as long as the Muslims honor, and they can cease this when they please.

This is based on a hadith of Muhammad where he said he would make a contract and if a better offer came along (or the contract no longer suited him) he would break the contract.

But specifically in the Palestine situation, Israel doesn't refer to Islamic law for rejection of this, it notes the fact that truces have not brought about an end to attacks. In ever Hamas 'hudna' bombers were captured before they could detonate themselves, rockets were fired, soldiers were killed, or Hamas was unable to control other people from doing this (Islamic Jihad, or some other group). In short the 'hudna' is worthless, it means Israel must not pre-empt attacks by targeting militants, but it allows militants to do as they please, and this is by design and what Hamas wants. Hamas has never recognized Israel and is dedicated to its destruction and the destruction of its people.

Anonymous said...

Interesting (and dangerous) mix of truth, half-truth, and the plain dumb in your blog posts 'Ibn al-Rawandi'.

Your speciality is taking the particular and generalizing.But this ia classic maneuver of prejudiced thinking and particularly of anti-islamic ranting.

Good luck to you and all your ilk.

Tariq said...

I love how Rawandi implies that one idiot cleric expresses the views of all muslims, collectively.

In a review of his book, the writer labels him and ibn Warraq as "free thinkers"...

I would not call anyone, with a set agenda,preconceived prejudices and an active dedication to focused hostility, a "free thinker"

So the Hadith is a set of concoctions, so the Sunnah is an artificial implementation of said Hadith... But I follow the Quran as my Divine manual. *shrugs*...

I'm not going to hate my parents for circumcising me. They made many mistakes through my upbringing, but I am not going to hate them. I'll have sympathy for their ignorance and strive to do better. THAT is what Islam means to me.

Your "secularism" is much worse than the Islam you so condemn, if it robs you of compassion.

Grow up, buddy.